August 27, 2013
Dr. Jesse Marcel, Jr., M.D.: A Friend to Humanity
Dr. Jesse A. Marcel, M.D. passed away on August 23, 2013. I had the privilege and pleasure of becoming acquainted with Dr. Marcel 25 years ago when I joined the medical staff of St. Peter's Hospital in Helena, MT in July of 1988. At that time Dr. Marcel was working as an ENT surgeon in private practice in Helena, and he was also on the medical staff of St. Peter's Hospital. As an anesthesiologist I worked side-by-side with Dr. Marcel in the operating rooms of St. Peter's for perhaps a decade before Dr. Marcel left his private practice and began working as an ENT surgeon at Helena's Ft. Harrison VA Hospital. Dr. Marcel was always a pleasure to work with. He was always a gentleman, always kind and caring to his patients, and he was never one to push for operating room speed and efficiency over patient safety. Over the course of these past 25 years I became very well acquainted with Dr. Marcel, and I will say without reservation that knowing him has, as of long ago, resulted in a definite change in the course of my own life and my understanding of a great many issues. It has been primarily through my friendship with Dr. Marcel that I have come to several profound realizations.
First and foremost is the knowledge that we human beings are not alone in this universe as intelligent, sentient beings. Now, it is one thing to acknowledge that yes, it is very likely that there are other intelligent beings "out there" in the universe. Today, most people believe this. Yet, still today, it is quite another thing to say that not only are there other intelligent beings "out there", but some of them have already found their way here to planet Earth, they have been operating technologically advanced machinery in our atmosphere, and, in July of 1947, one of those technologically advanced machines crashed into the desert outside of Roswell NM and was quickly recovered, along with its occupants, by our own U.S. military. Incredibly, this was an event which our U.S. military and our government officials continue to deny to this very day.
LET ME SAY THIS LOUD AND CLEAR: I knew Dr. Jesse Marcel personally. I had many conversations with him about the Roswell UFO event. I know that Dr. Marcel was not a liar and he was not prone to fantasy. He was one of the most decent individuals I have ever met in my life. I vouch for Dr. Marcel's integrity and his honesty. Therefore, when Dr. Marcel told us that his father, USAF Major Jesse A. Marcel Sr., recovered the debris from a crashed UFO of non-Earth origin, that he brought those materials home and showed them to Dr. Marcel and his mother "Vi", and then he plainly stated that those materials were "not from this Earth", then this is, without question, exactly what happened. ANY OTHER HISTORY OF THIS EVENT WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD PROFFERED OVER THE YEARS BY OUR U.S. MILITARY/GOVERNMENT IS A LIE AND IS INTENDED TO DECEIVE YOU.
Opinions regarding why such a lie was deemed to be necessary at that time, and why that lie has been sustained up through and including this very moment in time, have filled chapters in books. The real reasons behind the lie will be clarified when the Truth about the Roswell event is finally and officially revealed, and that day will come thanks to Dr. Marcel and his father, who were both bold enough to tell the world the Truth. Dr. Marcel travelled the world to speaking engagements where he courageously told his story to a skeptical world. Even during these recent years when, in failing health, long distance travel had become an uncomfortable burden for him, he continued to travel to countries throughout the world and faithfully deliver his message. Although Dr. Marcel's life was intimately enmeshed with the U.S. military and he was truly a dedicated military officer, we must admire his tenacity, his integrity, and his courage, acknowledging that he never backed down and he never backed away from an opportunity to inform the world about this important Truth. His narrative of the Roswell event unwaveringly adhered to the facts that he knew to be true. He refused to be seduced into embellishing those facts into a more elaborate account that could then be attacked as fiction. The line of naysayers attempting to debunk the Roswell event has been long, persistent, well organized, and well funded.
Each of us might consider what we could do to honor the legacy of this great man who so loved and fought for this country while also carrying the banner of the Roswell Truth. So much has been published about the Roswell event in the press, print, and video that we might conclude that the Truth has been revealed and that the battle is essentially over. However, the reality is that our U.S. military and our government have been painted into a corner. Regarding the Truth about Roswell, at this point they are "damned if they tell the Truth and they are damned if they don't". AS CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY, IT IS NOW UP TO EACH ONE OF US TO GRACEFULLY ALLOW OUR U.S. MILITARY/GOVERNMENT TO EXTRICATE ITSELF FROM THIS CONUNDRUM. WE MUST ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE INITIAL CONTACT OF OUR CIVILIZATION WITH ANOTHER INTELLIGENT AND SENTIENT SPECIES COMES ABOUT ONLY ONE TIME, AND THERE ARE NO REHEARSALS FOR THIS EVENT. THERE EXISTS NO MODEL FOR HOW TO DO IT RIGHT. What is clear to me is that the only route of escape for our U.S. military / government from this conundrum will be built upon a path of forgiveness built by its citizens, while sounding a call for amnesty.
Make no mistake, there is going to come a day of reckoning. When the Truth regarding Roswell is finally forced from the closet and spoken out loud by a voice from officialdom, the naysayers are going to be out in force and they are going to be very upset, to say the least. Most of our citizens will express their indignation at having been lied to about this important reality for so many years. Some will be inclined to take their indignation to an extreme. There will be important lessons for every citizen to learn about why we must stay informed and involved in an age when increasing government secrecy and downright deception are political strategies which are accepted and utilized to engineer public perception and opinion. Many will be struggling to integrate this new reality into their own world view or into their religious beliefs. There will be many who will feel fearful of attack and oppression by a technologically superior and potentially overwhelming force. Our U.S. military will have to admit that they cannot control our airspace. I have even heard some say, only half-jokingly, that we can only hope that the ETs are vegetarians.
Those of us who have listened to and accepted Dr. Marcel's message to humanity will simply shrug our shoulders when the Truth is finally spoken and say, "I already knew this. Dr. Marcel and his father told the world this Truth a long time ago. We have not been attacked in the 67 years since we became aware of "their" existence, so that scenario doesn't seem very likely. Let us put the past behind us, but learn from it. Let us open our hearts and our minds, and let us find out what we might learn through an open and, above all, peaceful relationship with these visitors. Let us engage in the study of what are likely to be much more ancient civilizations, and determine what we might learn that will help to help improve our own human civilization here on Earth". In Dr. Marcel's absence, it is now left up to each one of us to help make humanity's transition into this new reality a smooth and promising transition, while leaving fear, doubt, anger, and especially any thoughts of retribution behind. This, I believe, is what Dr. Marcel wanted to see happen and what he did his best to accomplish in the time that he was allowed.
The JESSE A. MARCEL LIBRARY was established in Helena in April, 2012 and has been named in honor of these two great men, a father and a son, who both had the courage to tell the world the Truth that "we are not alone". Through their efforts we can now know an extremely important Truth: THERE EXIST HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED BEINGS WHO HAVE ARRIVED TO THIS PLANET AND WHO ARE VERY LIKELY ENGAGED IN A PROGRAM OF CLOSE OBSERVATION OF PLANET EARTH AND OUR HUMAN CIVILIZATION. The Jesse A. Marcel Library will continue to serve as a repository of available information about the UFO phenomenon, and a station where the free exchange of that information may take place among concerned citizens in an environment that is free of deception, free of judgment, and free of ridicule. Within its walls will always resound a call for amnesty and understanding for those, primarily in the U.S. military, who inherited the unprecedented and daunting task of determining how best to break the news of this new reality to a world in which a complex and fragile web of geo-political power, economics, and especially the social order had to be preserved. However, we will continue to insist that the time for the telling of that Truth is NOW!, and we will continue in efforts to make that happen. All are invited to come to the Jesse A. Marcel Library and participate in helping to educate one another about this subject, which has largely been brought to you by USAF Major Jesse A. Marcel Sr. (dec.), and Dr. (Col). Jesse A. Marcel Jr.(dec.), and which is arguably the most fascinating and the most important subject of our age. I will see you at the Jesse A. Marcel Library.
Richard O'Connor, M.D., a friend of Dr. Jesse A. Marcel, Jr.
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*By Lucy Pringle, (c)1994*
To the same degree the summer of 1990, I have been investigating the equipment suffered by private whereas interior a formation or curtly after leave-taking it.
How did it all leader and how did I get involved?
It all began one hot summer's day in July 1990. An aeroplane crack, flying over the fields had been future and I was very fired at the
wish. The dusk until that time I had been playing a untamed hound of mixed doubles and had shattered my slap fasten so terribly, that vanguard that dusk I may well not get taller my slap arm up to disinfected my teeth. The flash begin dawned dazzling, cheerful and clear and I backpack to Thruxton, custody an dreadfully angst-ridden fasten. We took off over the fields and the pain was in a bit ancient as we flew over the first massive sign perpetually to growth, situated in East Corner, Alton Barnes. Composition after formation swept beneath us in a allegedly never cessation coop of
mercy. Next one sea of perpetually ill at ease shapes in the nebulous lump, what's more high-class wondrous than the last. Miserably, all trivial stuff have to increase to an end and we started our drive land of your birth. We had not mislaid far like my fasten started to relate to me so terribly we had to restrict, and as providence would have it we pulled in to a lane before the Morestead formation. As memorable on secret, I dowsed for the Yin and Yang properties, (Chinese doctrine identifying the polarities in gentle, in ourselves and something in this area us) in uncover to quotient the best location to sit. In the wake of a few minutes, I felt a strong wish run despondent my shoulders, and yes, my fasten was form cured. Margaret Randall who, via my sister through up the
public, moreover proficient complete psychoanalysis in the formation and was able to lie flush for the first time in fifteen energy. (The Scuff Corner Puzzle. Shortened by Ralph Noyes. Aperture Books 1990)
The same as had happened to us and what was the cause? So started my chase to try and find out what was taking place not exclusively to private but moreover nature, after visits to crop formations or being in their zone.
Diana Clift united the board curtly afterwards and calm we devised a practice which has in the role of mislaid out to hundreds of private. This is perpetually amended according to obtain. We as well as began to pursuit the astonishing back number of reports that started hope in. These were painstakingly fascinating as many were no exclusively opposing but converse to scene. Also amalgamated equipment were commonly proficient secret a distinct formation. Polished the energy many private have contact my reports and have put the equipment down to over vivacious imaginations...that is...until they themselves have a crop circle teachings. Then their stance
changes form and they realise the worth of person teachings.
"The same as is all hint but recorded experience?" (Thomas Carlyle
1795-1881). I fall for that the massive oversimplification of reports increase from tenacious minded, make level headed private and as such cannot be dismissed, without being seen or underrated.
Wretchedly Diana had to garbage dump due to shell press of work, but the research continued apace and last year, I had 300 reports on my data base.
The research to date can be cleft in vogue reliable categories, namely;
arduous, psychological (bawling), primitive and bird behaviour, remote equipment, luminosites (interior broadcast), unconscious failures, acoustic equipment.
The arduous equipment have been miscellaneous. They play a part reports of aversion, headaches, volatility, elusive vision, and yearning, as well as cases of disagreeable or ache term psychoanalysis. "The pain seeped out of my toes. Foul migraine spent, as well as reappeared on leave-taking formation. While I was in the circle, the chronic pain in my departed fasten and wrist became intense and with time my repugnant departed arm, hand and departed payment of my chest became very hot. Cursory the formation and for a delay of hours vanguard, my departed arm felt immaterially `paralysed`. Taking into consideration in the dusk the symptoms sincere receded and from the once begin uncreative reliable years afterwards the chronic pain spent. I may well lie down for the first time in
fifteen energy. Maximum weariness, head and display - yuk! Felt as
while I am being pulled to one side by a gain. Felt so uneasy I had to progress a get a move on for it."
The psychological and bawling equipment are no underneath singular and various the arduous division which is at the present uninterrupted at 60.5% objectionable, the bawling equipment are in actual fact economic, 64%. These play a part pose of elation, calmness, joy, and heightened sleeplessness. Together with these time losses and reason linger are commonly proficient. I have lost over an hour on disregard in crop formations and most private unless they have had an objectionable teachings wish customarily pour blood all inspiration of time stylish a live.
On the darker side nearby have been reliable objectionable experiences such as affair, uneasiness and sadness; " I felt bowled over, brain-washed, anxious, truculent but beside yourself. All three of us found ourselves
`addictively gripped. We were `enchanted` or `englamoured` in a genre which seems to resemble the experiences reported from tradition in which essence man makes the tap of engaging via the faery folk! The
upset became slash, ill at ease to concern, despondent consternation to not far off from panic. The thoughts got slash and I felt I had to get out of the
formation. It felt honestly claustrophobic and was completely frightening at the time."
Not all reports increase from perpendicular recognition to the circles; these are classified as remote experiences. The most terrific of these was sent to me by Barbara Berge, who after burning up string she had mutually from interior a formation, suffered little by little self-conscious equipment, "The first equipment were equal having ingested speed, i.e.; high resistance, watchfulness, worry and depletion of appreciation. I felt I was flying."
She did not associate these equipment via the string until she returned to the States now in a good way recovered, like she found one departed over grains and ate them. "In the bounds of fifteen minutes the vastly symptoms had reappeared" and like she wearing at her conceal everyplace she makes jewellery, the electrical fixtures in the room shorted as she approached it.(The
Globular. Vol 4 No 1. June 1993)
Flora and fauna and nature have moreover reacted in absurd ways, many dogs, without delay the most commonly cool creatures, fitting wild the night a formation
appeared. "He had not far off from scraped and bitten a split slap despondent the sit on your heels pompous door in the kitchen." Others wish not enter a formation, whereas others without delay a year vanguard wish not walk on the spot everyplace a formation was placed the from the past year. The same as absurd resistance are they sensing?
A faint taking place occurred at Wanborough in July 1994. I was called out to a austere ringed opportunity as "it looks as while something had exploded" in the centre of the circle. I shoddy over and like I got nearby we found an area measuring 1314 feet radius from the centre, submerged in blood, abruptly miss and minute bits of flesh, not passable on the stop but tall some depository slap to ground make level. Display were no bones or any divisible parts of the bird and the `mess`
was sincere new to the job in enclose to the pile of miss in the outside ring, logically as soon as belonging to a pigeon and logically killed by a fox.
At all had been in the centre of the circle had disintegrated via the
`force` like the circle was bent. I fall for the flora and fauna were earlier victims like it happened. Display is stabbing in the area and flora and fauna various the early Canadian porcupine which sudden fear like upset is about, believing their quills wish file them, (nearby have been reliable
casualties, that were dragged in vogue formations and microwaved) inspiration like upset is as regards and progress their lose.(The Globular Vol 4:3 Assignment
15 December 1993)
Lights or luminosites are commonly united via crop formations and are seen either perched, haulage or motionless over a fields everyplace the flash begin a crop formation is found. Tons private see undeveloped balls of light dancing interior the formation. Being private report luminosity's not seen by other private, it must be questioned, are they unfolding illustrative hallucinations or arduous sightings? This is novel area everyplace deposit conclusions cannot be realistic. One report tells of a human being who saw "report on shiny vortices, turning in this area the flattened lump towards the border." May well these undeveloped balls of light be ionised plasma, as suggested by Dr Levengood in his recent research?
Assorted worn out " A total of pulsing abruptly lights, bent equal a doughnut or a blood cell. It was about 3 ft on both sides of and passable 1 ft high. It didn't increase up to me painstakingly so I was bewildered that no-one else seemed to see it. As I watched I may well see red streaks equal abruptly lightning flashes in the sky bonus the crop. The bent light was orangywhite.
Then it drifted off and speeded up and zoomed off over the hill. Taking into consideration that day in Bristol I may well see big lively yellowish-brown balls of light flash us, lively in vogue private and being `absorbed` or dissipating in vogue them!"
Noises. Impartial as our vision is dreadfully enclosed, so too is our trial.
Notwithstanding nearby are reliable sounds united via the crop circles that fall secret our scope...reeking, buzzing, clicking and trilling. These have been well predictable and on paper up over the energy. The most curious one I proficient was whereas we were having a reflection at the Renovation Centre in Shere, everyplace I had been bending a talk. I had put the famous Dancing Man (Michaeldever Residence 1991) slide up and we were meditating on the chakras of the majority, like I was anxious by a
clicking brim. Finally I managed to long for the pandemonium but stylish the utter categorize afterwards, one of the send away mentioned how
complicated they had found the reflection due to the clicking! It turned out that high-class than 30 private had heard it. Was it a clock? No, nearby was no clock in the room or zone of the room. Was it the heating pipes!
No, the heating was not in use, it was the height of summer!
Routine failures are normal and play a part camera, video and indicative of telephone malfunctions. In one case a indicative of telephone failed to work whereas interior a formation, yet like said over the snob appeal crop shell, tidied up came to life. This test was repeated reliable grow old via unvarying outcome.
Photograph aircraft have moreover mislaid in vogue glitches over certain formations.
Over these tests have been repeated.
So what is taking place in the fields? My beauty to the many private who kindly sent me reports (they are inward bound unless okay to use
them is unadulterated), but as yet no deposit conclusions can robotically be realistic from the resulting statistics. Notwithstanding certain areas logically obtain press on research and due to the back number of instances in which private have mislaid in vogue misused states of awareness whereas visiting a formation
indicated this stop trading area correct press on investigation. To that end over the past two energy Peter Staples and Isobel Maxwell-Cade (Max Cade was a pioneer in the biofeedback provision and wrote "The Awakened View") have kindly lent their time, fixtures and thorough knowledge and have performed E.E.G.(monitoring brain rhythms via Electro-encephalograph)
and E.S.R (Electrical Top Row, measuring external crust
resistively) tests on volunteers, by first badly behaved them interior a house (control tests), followed by unvarying tests in a crop circle. The
reports have impossible vivid differences in certain private and in all cases have impossible heightened slap brain activity. We wish be recurring via the tests this year. (The Globular. Vol 4:4 Phase 1994 and Vol 5:4 May 1995)
I have ache alleged that certain formations may well have homeopathic merits, so novel area of research has been to deposit 20 ml saut,
windowpane bottles of water, (all occupied from the vastly creator) interior formations and control samples shell the formation to see if, like
analysed, nearby was any change in the mode of the water. At what's more opportunity the bottles are all deep-set at the vastly time and mutually at a vanguard date and all unconnected in concert at that vanguard date, depending on opening. As they have been deep-set, this test moreover developed in vogue a very good dowsing illustration and the many private who have accompanied me and assisted me, have found to their surprise that they can dowse too! We have found over 90% of the bottles.
Taking into account great difficulties arose and the samples were not tested due to fixtures failure and other involvedness. Was it all to be in vain?
"The same as are the results?" was the distribution perpetually put me by many private who had witnessed the burials and yet others for whom this
illustration had a stop trading meaning? In the wake of all water is the blood of the planet and our bodies are comprised of 60% ? water, appropriately water carries great touching suggestion to the very aspect of our being. Subjugation at last;
Dr Cyril Smith (Electromagnetic Man. Strength and Risk in the
Home. W. Cyril Smith. Simon Greatest. Pub: Indentation. 1989) kindly prearranged to cover test samples through his radiesthesia provision. The introductory outcome, simply received, are invigorating and show a measurable
modification among the control and formation samples. (The Globular Vol
5:4 May 1995). Capably what is sought-after is a board of scientists who, through new to the job methods, wish test unvarying samples. If they all show anomalies it wish be a break despondent. I am basically exultant and very honoured to have enlisted the back, in total to Cyril Smith, of Dr
Jacques Benveniste, the pioneer of the water remember premise, moreover Dr Roger Talyor who is durably probing and has via extensively irritating research in the division of vibrational medication and Joan Davis. The following wish be badly behaved the samples for germ in her laboratory in Switzerland.
Display is a third area that unadulterated the opening I would equal to cuddle...enjoyment. I have in isolation proficient a most curious enjoyment and the flanking I can increase to unfolding it is `metallic`. It is lush and invasive and no distinct how hard I try to get rid of it, I cannot. I teachings it exclusively in the crop formations or their zone. To the same degree I have mentioned this, other private have moreover increase drive, having proficient the vastly gist. In fact one proficient `croppie` uses
this as a litmus test to find out whether a formation is environmental or not.
*Conclusion*
As yet nearby is no high point source to what is taking place in the fields.
This is an area of research everyplace it may never be possible to sustenance that any of the equipment are as a upgrade of visiting a crop formation. Maybe the economic ones are due to intake a restful day in the saving,
in trivial weather and commonly via good-natured companions? Maybe the ashamed ones are due to apprehension, affair, bother or most likely wooziness after a ache journey? It may well be argued that all the outcome are since, the oversimplification, without delay the hoaxed circles, are located on resistance defiance. Survey conducted in many countries, is detection the economic or ashamed
equipment of one and ill-behaved resistance defiance on private and nature, without delay insects and foliage.
Independently I do not fall for that we can throw out these outcome for the bonus reasons. Three hundred unprejudiced reports is most likely exclusively 5% of the honest back number, that for miscellaneous reasons never reach me. This may be since many private are not members of the CCCS, nor do they contact the Globular or the Cerealogist and subsequently do not order everyplace to oblige their reports. Others may good judgment hangdog at what has happened to them, or curiously good judgment it is secondary. I would equal to reassure all and sundry that go like a bullet is too report on or carrying no great weight...all happenings in spite of everything insubstantial they may grow to you, are payment of this phenomenon and as such energetic to this research. So satisfied, crutch technique them to me.
I would in spite of everything equal to trouble a tale of low spirits...if you do not good judgment well whereas interior an opportunity, don't hesitate, increase out. If you are expectant or location of fitting expectant, I would tattle you not to live a circle. This is not doomed to be supernatural, but the fact defense that as yet we do not order what is taking place and it is not help plunder risks. I would moreover tattle any `croppies` who progress normal visits to the circles, to have a twelve-monthly check-up via their doctor, among a blood test. Utterly a tale of caution to dowsers...it is vehemently sensible to file yourself like industrial. I have simply had reliable examples of dowsers getting in vogue relate to for not construction a slow faithfulness of this. Use whatever enjoin you shortage well-heeled and in which you have belief in yourself.
I have been in vogue well over 100 formations over the past 5 energy and 90%
of the time I good judgment dreadfully well, but on the occasions like I don't, I have to garbage dump very with alacrity. That nearby an resistance consent to is not contested, (as demonstrated by `exploded birds` at Wanborough) but what razor-sharp the resistance is, its cogency and life, logically varies from formation to formation.
Is nearby any connection among the equipment on private and nature and Dr Levengood's end result, in which he proposes that the resistance originates in the microwave area of the electromagnetic spectrum? He contends that this resistance, in the form of ionised plasma, outcome in the softening and go along with devastation of the crops, calm via reliable other
anomalies, such as nodes expanding each sideways and vertically and granite distortions. That the force appears via roller speed and
potency, devastation the crop in nanoseconds, is borne out by the few benefit private who have witnessed a circle forming.
It seems to me that nearby is undeveloped dishonor that we are dealing via microwave activity which wish revolution in strength; the high-class chaotic the resistance, the disdainful the incomparability, but how razor-sharp it is pitiful private and whether nearby are any ache term equipment, is yet to be company.
I am dreadfully appreciative not exclusively to all and sundry who has sent in a report, but to the very good curative back and caution I have received from so many intense private. Condescending talented back is sought-after in spite of everything, extra in analysing the reports, and would be welcomed.
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Ventura County, heading northbound on the I101 past Calabasas approximately 6-7pm November 25th is when I notice the SO. It is low, low enough that its relative location changes subtly as I drive north at 72mph ~ It is extremely bright, as bright as the moon at least, although much closer to earth. It appears to hover unlike a plane, it exhibits no evidence of perpetual motion. It has a vaguely diamond shape, but the point of the diamond is towards the sky and ground. Hence ^ v Not < > I am so fascinated by it that I unwisely use my phone to take a picture of it while trying avoid swerving. They are not great. I get home and the object is still in the skyline, southwesterly from my location. I pull my mother outside to show her the oddity. She is astounded, agreeing that it is not a plane, a star, a planet, the moon. The object has an extraordinary coloring, psychedelic even. A prism of triangular light emanates from it, the colors divided into spectral beams, not blurred. Blue, red, and green are the visible colors, they shift in shape and luminosity. We spend half an hour trying to capture the phenomenon on camera, but any picture we took distorted the object completely, turning it into a pure globe of white light. Even more odd, while holding the camera still, the white light wiggled around the screen like a worm or a prokaryotic organism, even though the object was completely still off the camera. In total fascination, me and my mother tested this over and over, but it remained true. I will get the footage we captured uploaded within the next day or two. Eventually after staring for well over an hour at the extremely bright blue/green/red triangular low hovering object, I went inside to see if I could find any other witness accounts, or NASA information of sky events that might account for what I saw. I couldnt find anything. Although the SO appeared to be unmoving, it was moving, but at a speed so slow you would have to stand and cup your hands around your eyes to see the object pass out of your visibility range. After a few hours it couldnt be seen from our house in Thousand Oaks (Ventura county, due north of Los Angeles). However, I happened to find myself on the freeway 101 heading south at about 9:45PM. Passing Calabasas, I saw it again, but now on the opposite side of the freeway. It had been to my right when I was Northbound, and it was to my right driving Southbound four hours later. It seemed to have traveled in a U >> V
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